hey i dont get why people do not still had not setup the congruent theories about some topics on multiverse theories.  


i listened a video which says METI were wrong.  that its like all alien civilizations should try to hide in the universe.  in this listening: 

i listened to game theoretic kripkean thought method wrongly applied perspects which i found very ill equipped. their logic is incorrect..

 it tells about alien civilizations A would in kripkean logic systems would be in default whenever they detect METI messages of B would destroy B aliens civilization in hypothethic interaliens civilizations interaction. 


i found it wrong that becuase it depends on assumption that matter is constant in universe as the base argument to the thought methods.


i dont think such theory makes sense. kripkean logic  of it depends on wrong assumptions. matter is not constant. creatable.  neither spacetime is most possibly. 

so A civilization instead of creating delusional kripkean logic systems about B would might then create a self universe pockets to itself that would not require hostility to B.


the ill equippedness of the theory i listened shocked me. i mean that it kripkean wise setups wrong thoughts.

such idea is imho shows quite very ill equipped thought. 

METI is not wrong imho. and no aliens are not after any other B alien civilization to show up and attempt war at them. 

i mean the matter in universe is not constant. and such kripkean logics are ill formed. 

and the theory teller says that their logic is not evil whilst it is.


they tell that such thought iterations of kripkean logic is not evil but it is. 


evil is usually stupid (evil is what stupid is called to). and their stupidity to setup such ill equipped thought patterns which depends on zero sum logic and the matter constantness in universe is just simply pure evil. 

it says aliens civilizations are not hostile due to evilness but logic requires it. no we claim that such logic is evil (what is evil called? its stupidity indeed) and very stupid and ill formed. 


matter is not constant. for alien civilization A to thrive does not risk existence of alien civilization B unlike the theory discussed there.  its so ill formed and stupid and evil even if rpeetitively says their theory is not evil no itks evil based on stupid assumptions.



 

it were a very pessimist theory :S i very disliked it :S

i think its very ill equipped and very stupid and ill formed. 



just because you can setup any kripkean logic systems does not mean you go hysterical about any kripkean logic that might came up :S



such a system of intergalactic situation would be self harming to any alien civilizations.  so its stupid. aliens with any intelligent mind wouldnt have such mentality imho. 

because its a self harming system if such systemsforms. not logical. 

rather there would be instead alien civilizations which sets up some basical principles in universe and that would prohibit what such theory states. 

i mean there would be countermeasures against such situation  aliens wouldnt be that stupid any nor in mentality of such stupid mentality :S 



its the most ill equipped theory i saw. and utterly stupid.  just because you can setup kripkean logic does not mean the inconsistem nonstable systems you setup with kripkean wise is a reason to go hysterical. 


i think what aliens civilizations would do instead would be automated mechanisms which ensures such belligerent ideas do not materialize in universe. with making sure belligerence of such idea set is avoided.  


of oibservation of emerging civilization with automated systems and with barriers included. 

and that would include barriers/segregations (technological wise) until ethical-moral(I mean e.g. basic principles like freedom degree of civilization  or principles of setup anthropologic condition etc etc) superiority of any new alien civilization is reached for any new civilization out there.


so reason universe seems silent is most possibly noti due to such nightmarish idea kripkean method applied delusional hysterics, its rather either this region is some void region alike or else some barrier or such form since this place of sol system is also new civilization types.


so that were the most stupid logic i ever listened to. and very unnice that novel kripkean system is applied to reach to such most utter stupid ideas/inferences.


:S

very stupid :S


insanely delusional and stupid :S



although i dont think aliens would even observe emerging civilizations even. since universe is vast. maybe they would random sampledly observe the civilizations type emerging. maybe they might even create simulations to understand all possibilities indeed. 



i mean it would be quite impossible to setup barriers to any emerging new civilization out there.

so what they would do instead is creating universe pockets to their civilizations that has barriers around it so that they wouldnt have any such kripkean nightmare situations materialize. 


in deed no civilization would have such kripkean mentality imho indeed. even without barriers of universe segregations i think noone would have such kripkean wise defined mentality. 


but in case any civilization A fears from other aliens intergalactic civilizations it would rather build universe segregation technologies for that. 


destroying all detected intergalactic civilizations since they might be threat in a delusional kripkean logic is kind of very stupid and evil :S


that kripkean logic applied there -> is total totalitarian mindset's utter limits (highest degree of totalitarian mindset) --->

this idea i listened last day were some totalitarian nightmare. i mean trying to define cartesian systems and define nominality with dualist cartesian systems. 


you can not create delusionally feared intergalactic civilizations with cartesian logic in your mind.


this were the uttermost example of totalitarian thought principle i ever seen. 

limits of totalitarian mindset it were as if. i mean the limits utter limit of totalitarian thought example alike. 


just there if the universe is expanding with more speed than light, you can surely can define your civilizations universe bubble with safe from other civilizations that is found as threat as with kripkean logic based setup delusional hysterics and so. 


i mean there is abundance in universe. and neither space time nor matter is constant. the presumptions theory makes is incorrect. 

it states on a delusional recursive logic as ->

false assumption: there is constant matter in universe.  but even if it were false, lets temporarily consider it true. to show how the theory itself is still wrong even if its base assumption were considered true (whilst its not) 

e.g. intergalactic civilization A and civilization B one of them detects other. or both of them. 

and the theory states that each civilization would think that its civilization is on course of extending its civilization and due to communication gap or the basis assumptions either of them would destroyother. 

if this were the thought mechanism, then each civilization itself were a threat on to itself. although it does not have communication gap on to itself, it would still have some issue based on constant matter assumption. 


so there is no logical end of this recursive thouyght pattern. 


but the main reason why its wrong that its basic assumption that space time and matter is constant. its not.  


this seems like a logic perspect that is caused by living in a planet currently humanity civilization is. 

that perspect is wrong. space time is unlimited. matter is not constant. 

even if humanity's might be on a limited habitat currently of planet, by time its civilization progress even more it would reach out even more technological status where it can even alter create matter and space time.  

so there is nothing like constant matter.


this theory is also wrong also on this aspect.


what only makes me think that before this wrong perspect is figured out that its wrong, in such case, where  multiple civilizations existed in vicinity solar systems, than we might have seen really cases of interstar system wars maybe. because before that civilizations progresses  to level of technology where they discover matter is creatable and space time and matter is not constant, they might have that living in a planet bound perspect.


so this perspect of kripkean is only valid for civilizations that had not yet discovered how to create matter and spacetime. 


so considering the vastness of universe, any civilization that figures out how to do travel parsecs also hasa already reached to civilization state which knows how to create matter and space time. 

so they wouldnt be hostile. nor apply such kripkean logic. they would maybe as a measure might apply universal barriers but otherwise they wouldnt do such hostility that idea states.



and for civilizations that some how come up in vicinity solar neighbourhood, e.g. near star systems (in world we dont have that condition maybe slightly proxima systems might be some hositle place and threat )  that threat exists what such theory states.

since any civilization that yet has not discovered how to create matter and space time might have this mentality what this theory states.  i mean such perspect.  


so this theory is only valid for nearby star systems alike conditions regions of universe/multiverse. 


but not valid for actually distant very  distant parsecs regions of universe. 


so if you look to sky and think all the stars there are possible hostile civilizations that would destroy us, is a very wrong incorrect idea.


if you want to think of risk of such theories states, just fear only solar system vicinity.  i mean nearby solar systems to our solar system. maybe at most barnards star or proxima etc etc. but not more distance from that. 


such mindset of constant matter/spacetime is mindset of civilizations which yet had not discovered to create matter and space time. which wouldnt also there by yet having invented thousands parsecs traveling capacities.  so its possible that such hostile civilizations might happen but they also at the same time wont have alot travel capacities yet. since such perspective only accompanies the basic assumption that matter is constant and space time is constant assumptions.


so if any to fear of the entire sky we see of our galaxy or even distant galaxies is very baseless.  any civilization that can travel more than 30 parsecs is already had deciphered how to even create space time and they wouldnt have that nightmarish mentality what that kripkean logic states. completely baseless delusional thought. 


so in our case, the nearest star system is proxima systems in 4 light years. so i think thats the only place where such hostile aliens invasion threat might occure from. since 4 light years distance is not that much challenge to pass.  i mean if there existed civilizations out there and if they are in civilization type that does not yet have capacity to create matter/space time,  then anyone has a legit mentality to apply such mindset what that kripkean thought pattern states.  for such parsecs distances, such kripkean logic makes sense and we need to create defenses to our solar system for such threat. but rest of sky? then such kripkean logic makes utter nonsense and is just exaggerated thingking maybe the creator of idea just wanted to do exaggerated thinking examples not that seriously considered such idea plausible. 



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so to be risk under invasion of aliens only requieres nearby star systems to happen for any region of universe/multiverse. 


nice that we are lucky and our earth is least 4 light years distance to nearest star system.  althnought thats a threat i think also since thats not much distance to pass with some civilization technology level. 


but rest of universe is you can be sure of no threat any at all. 

anyh civilization that has techonological level to create space time wouldnt have such nightmarish mentality ever. 



so humanity there is no risk of METI.  distance galaxies civilazitions are of no threat! if they are yet in not space time creating civilization tech levels, they than cant come.  if they are they wont come to destroy.  since its illogical. they might communicate with (also spacetime barriers included possibly in case they are paranoid). but they would surely not apply such kripkean logic such nightmarish study states.


so there is no risk of  METI in my opinion. 


but i think the actual risky places such kripkean thought applied risk might happen from are near by sol systems like barnards star or  proxima.  if there is civilizations out there. but more distance places than that, i dont think suhc distances pose any threat. 







  











 


 



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