warp discussion continued

 yep i studied more to the banach tarski based 2.d idea more and yep I think  I completed some of conceptualization of some ontology level but not very formulated wise yet as fully diagrams/formulas of alike. 

specifically the point topology concept is not decided yet.

I had idea that there is no distance concept in this 2.d idea.  and figured out how that happens. there is no cartesian frame and no distance concept indeed.

yep I study like -> hey i think distance concept in this generator based model does not make sense indeed so how so distance also occures when eigenstates are interacting. figured out why /how.  

so in this idea's spatiality topology there is no distance nor cartesian frame indeed :) (they might be perceived perceptions (similar to time being some poset/lattice perception but not that there is any time dimension). but in model wise distance/cartesian frame they dont exist. hmm.  

its all exists is the generators which generates the eigenstates's spatiality (3d traits) and generators of banach tarski like free grp of generators which ones get more probable is some probabilistic calculation.

so there is no concept of velocity or acceleration also in this idea. (they are just perceived perceptions/not the actual framework has that) 

the idea is about spatiality generators and interactions between eigenstates and the connect sheaves of past-future and whichever entropy highest( most sheaves count) That becomes the poset/lattice crystallization for that eigenstate indeed.

so e.g. in our perceived newtonian universe we have velocity concept. e.g. a rolling ball has velocity V right?  then in newtonian this is aphysical trait.

but in this idea, its that the ball has some generator which constantly iterates its spatiality. and whilst doing that there is no time indeed. but time is a relative perception. but there is the balls overall eigenstates have its also loops versions hysteresis versions of according to its generator's degree.

e.g. if  its n degree generator currently it has less sheaves compared to n+1 and so think of two rolling balls.  which one has n degree of generator (corresponds to velocity in perceived universe) and second has n+1 right? then ->  the first one's past sheaves has less branches and the second one has more and so if first one has 100 state space to have its eigenstates which some of them might be hysteresis/or loop out or iterate in generator position among its eigenstates, the nto the power 1 has maybe 1000. and relative to first ball,  its more probable to have the second n to the power 2 degree having one be in some notgenerative but  hysteresis alike or I generator status which would reciprocate/reduce the sheaves count difference since due to the momentarily probability of nto the power 2 generator's I generator or hysteresis mode to happen more frequently.  thereby for the n the spatiality moves to from n to n tot he power 2 (2 times generator generating) the  continuously whilst from the first ball's perspective the other is still in  n to the power 2 condition.  therefore creating time dilation concept. 

for nto the power 2 one second ball rolling, it also by its own perception it also spatially increases spatial conditions without respect to any perceived time dilation (time flows still as if like before to itself) and for its when it would measure the first ball, would see that time has passed more on first ball until it reaches similar generator degree/base. 

hmm but conceptual model of is not complete. so how the continous generation function is?  how that is without a time concept? that is a mixture of gaps (hysteresis)/I generator  and iteration of generation visibly.  for a moment lattice has a I generator or hysteresis (loop) or generated some generation than next moment it might be again I alike. but there is no time dimension in this. its all an instant. and instant a diverse set of lattices one lattice gets more probable then that gets be effected and again instant wise a lattice. 

so these lattice forms iterations from generation to hysteresis from generator being I (no velocity) among all these lattices instants comparatively in second rolling ball there is a different lattice formation compared to this rolling ball as defined. which creates the time perception. normally there is no time. but lattice in one sheaves branch  crystallizes in more hysteresis then compared to other and that creates time perception/orderedness perception.

 so in this idea, there is no cartesian frame. all generators which somehow orthogonal 3 ones becomes became the initial creator generators of the multiverse regimen. or else somehow probability calculation always makes some 3 orthogonal generators be more prone to be latticed. 

but there there is this only generaters either in I (identity generator, which generates always identity transform (0 velocity) )  status or  hysteresis loops of the eigenstate's generator or some generator which momentarily instantly switches to generating a second value for spatiality. 

so here there is no distance. e.g. in physics there is all formulaes have distance concept.

but in this idea there is no distance. e.g. when a ball is interacting to an outside external eigenstate e,  the e one not moves toward ball with any distance/cartesian sense. there is just generators of ball and e right? but no distance concept. that e becomes near to ball is because not that there is some cartesian or voidness or whatever its.  no.  its the interaction of balls eigenstate and the e, that some how the e moving there makes the overall importance of sheaves of ball be more significant where its the local effector to e whilst e is at the same time connected to all sheaves of universe alike ball, but ball's high mole count makes its significant and effector and the lattices form in most economic sense (with most optimized movement pattern of e) to have the local effector(ball) be dominant effector for e.  its like some snowball effect. although in this idea there is no distance concept. e.g. ball at million km has same effect to e,  but million km has lots of effectors which balances out each other but for that config not that local effector's effect becomes dominant because its local (no there is no distance concept in this idea) its rather e moving in optimized movement just because of future contra direction sheaves has more sheaves count  because future universes is like effect of is balanced out but the local effector there has more sheaves count in posets of its lattice whilst for distance item it would have reach more sheaves count with more poset length. 

so locality becomes more effective not that there is some distance concept in this idea. but because the poset length /lattice length where interaction between eigenstates happens is less and in less length it becomes more compact metaphoric more binded reducing the outside lattice's effect. i mean one lattice type becomes dominant and to keep it dominant the optimized iterations moves e closer to ball b.  hmm most possibly because:  the ball itself is in a partial hysteresis (stationary in its moles of eigenstates) and also distant external universe beings also is alike partially in hysteresis.  hmm that the e would rather see some increase of generator degree of the ball due to it being more probable in e's perspect. but then entire frame of where ball is also moves towards  where direction emerges as an optimized generator direction.  so e does not fall to ball. entire ball and its frame moves towards it. and why does distance objects has less such behaviour is possibly because they already have their generators set in high degrees. so when ball moves towards e,  entire reference frame of ball also moves according to sheaves connectedness.  so not that e falls to the ball (to the planet), planet moves to the e possibly maybe. where planet in its hysteresis mode has a lot eigenstates configs due to its large mass. but for e it has less eigenstate configs although its sheaves has also very much branches full connection to universe lattices but for respect to e entire reference frame moves from or to the e. if it were not e's direction, than that would increase external interactions but if entire reference frame of planet and universe moved towards e it would be like the high mass planet would have in less poset length reach to a equilibrum state of hysteresis iterations again.  i mean universe shortens poset lengths of future direction contra-sheaves iterations by side effect.  so cartesian frame is a side effect.  we could think of this concept also with not reference frame moving but e moving toward ball. where then again similar poset length related logic would be effective. so we dont know if e binds to a moved entire local universe region to a new generator config or whether if e itself moves to the ball. actually its not the same.  (for regarding generators its not like mappings in category theory when changing direction is not always the same. ) so this being yet undeciphered part of this initial idea. does the generator of e iterate? or the reference frame planet or local universe towards e?  they are utterly not same(tom leinster has had a funny comment about changing directions of mappings and no not everything would be similar of category theory topic) . (Although to an observer it all seems as e falling to the planet but whether planet moves to e or e moving (generator of e iterating ) is not the same indeed in terms of the generators there. 

so this favorance of shorter poset lengths is some enigma of this idea to be deciphered how so that happens. 

so since we wanted to do thoughts on perceived universe concepts like time and cartesian frame,  we excluded them from this initial idea conceptualization :) 

i mean in this theory there is no distance concept in any physics formulae.  distance is just perceived thing. 

there is only generators in this initial idea and no cartesian frame and no time indeed :) time is also a perceived side effect of latticed (Crystallized lattice's)  poset length where poset nodes are like instant switchs of the lattice to configs of either generation or different generator config type lattice formation or hysteresis loop. 

hmm so there is for first 2 tasks of this theorem, there is still tasks for second task (of conceptualizing the lattice formation) its diagrams should be formulated and its probability calculations should be shown of how lattice forms how why.  and its generator dynamics switches of generators should be shown how it behaves like that and why.  

and for first task it would be like developing some free grp which generates the orthogonal 3 dimensions there etc etc. how that is not 4 and 3 is because possibly the 4 is not stable as much as 3 in generated spatiality universe where self organized intelligence forms more feasible in a more stable one maybe.  (thats the starting idea of why not the 4 orthogonality lattices becomes dominant but 3 spatiality becomes more dominant so that we dont have 4d in our perceived universe) 

 

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so aliens do you think is it any logical, my recent conceptualization of 2.d theory? 

can you please give some info of whether this idea has some relevance or not to actual multiverse frameworks?  

so if this theory were correct, i mean even if not fully conceptualized yet, if it were correct -> 

it would mean for inventing hull of spacecraft that could raise over gravity well of a planet (for developing neptune outpost), one need to: 

-> create mathematical structs of where multiversal wise analytic algebraic geometries of boltzmann grid alike many versions of could be type systems where the algebraic structure would create some hysteresis concept itself so that it would be not be effected by gravity well and with slight input it would raise over gravity well.  or some controlled singularity of complexity which might again make it move alike.  there is lots of possible things to do with such generator based idea imho. after its framework is formulated that needs to be studied. but for now i have to resume to finish plugin task even its not interesting-important like this warp project.  

yep! time to study some more above idea imho! of hull design for spacecraft to develop neptune outpost first. 

yep aliens friends of humanity whom helps humanity in tech/science with giving info about multiverse, can you nod if possible to whether if above theory is somehow has any relatedness to how multiverse is? 

many thanks friends of humanity :) (whom helps humanity to have invent warp /atilgan to have humanity utterly prosper/to stop trying to keep up to a single planet /to help humanity utterly  prosper in abundance of multiverse ) (same like they try to help all humanity alike any civilizations in multiverse) (aliens are fully benevolent -> friends of all civilizations out there)

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yep today continues with ->

i think following development of banach tarski based 2.d idea development requires some books revisitings but cant stop sparing time to also thinking the enigma of the poset length.

e.g. if there is no distance concept so ->  how so shorter poset length becomes the dominant and why does e.g. e eigenstate does not move outwards from ball but towards ball?  what does space point topology has to do with that? if there is no locality in such framework (no distance concept) so how so the moment of where e's movement would stop becomes the lattice one? 

so there in that case, you observe universe latticeization happens for favoring stop of change of generator config somehow.  maybe its because for short term when generator iterates it would become in more hysteresis condition or its sheaves would branch many many more out and the shorter path it has a behaviour change (e.g. e to be on ball where then its eigenstate completely changes) becomes the lattice crystallized.

aha! now i understood how so the e does not move outwards  but toward ball.  its most optimized movement for future lattice version where its generator config would change due to being obstructed which would then interim would change generator configs alot which might be some more entropy more sheaves count for its total entropy situation considering entire universe's effect to it.

so we can continue thinking that there is no distance metric concept in this theory (maybe there is but we wished to start with such idea just due to curiosity)   and reason e moves towards but not outwards to ball is because of it would be obstructed there in the artifically generated cartesian frame which is a byproduct but the generator universe and its frameworks does not have such notion. (I mean in this theory) 

in this theory, there is no time dimension (its artificial generated by product of the generated universe) and same goes for distance metric/cartesian frame.  the original generator universe has no such concept it has just generators and cartesian frame in 3d gets created as a byproduct /not that the framework formulas of multiverse has such notion. 

but time artificialness is fully defined right now for this idea but cartesian frame/distance metric artificialness is not fully defined.  because when a generator iterates, its value to make meaning must mean that cartesian frame exists by default. so the idea is not complete in terms of the artificialness of distance metric. some topic to think upon of how we could make it artificial (byproduct) in this idea study.

 

so we can only try to think artificialness of cartesian frame with thinking that the generators all had no spatiality concept at the beginning and the moment it started to generate spatiality happent and artificial cartesian frame notion got developed.   (although this does not seem fully thought indeed/ seems incomplete/something nonintuitive exists in this thought idea in this paragraph.)

so think of it as a 0d (0 dimension) where its a single point where generators were happening at first place and then for increase of entropy,  generators branched out creating 3d spatiality.  (it also creates 4d spatiality possibly or infinitely many dimensions but 3d is the perceived one since it has more entropy as self organized intelligence concept forms in 3d whereas 4d is not stable for that ?) does this makes sense? not fully right?  so possibly generators have some limits of whihc dimensions it could generate since noone could convince me that in more than 3d dimensions self organized intelligence wont happen thereby increasing entropy of that universe versions. that there then this unclearness is yet second enigma of this idea. 

we understood the first enigma. of how distance how so it could been an artificial concept? (perceived/byproduct) and that the original universe generators have no distance notion? we created an answer to this initial query above. that we deciphered how so it could been like that.

so but for this second enigma, of why 4d is not stable enough for self organized intelligence to emerge? that yet unclear. and how so 100d is less entropy than 3d so that 3d lattices more?  i mean why does 3d takes the dominance of lattices but not 100d or not 1000d? why so?  this enigma is unclear also. we couldnt find an explanation to this yet as of now.

but still finding an answer to initial query were relief. of why how so e does not move outwards but moves towards ball? we found an answer to that. actually we dont know if distance concept of spatiality is artificial indeed but we wanted to start to decorate this idea with this aspect first. since in this theory time is definitely artifical by theory's itself,  we also had a curious attitude of thinking what if cartesian frame/distance metric is also similar to time a byproduct/artificial? we found an ideaization thoughts to have enable such idea.  time artificiality is inherent to this 2.d idea but not so for distance metric/cartesian frame. so we added to the idea ourselves due to just curiosity and its more stranger/weirder indeed if that were like that that the generator universe were like that.  and so and because its more intriguing to think like that since i mean it seems slight near to logical fallacy to think that 3d is generated/byproduct but not think that also for cartesian frame/distance metric concepts. right? i think so.  so this 2.d idea inherently claims time is artificial/byproduct and  even more slightly claims same for cartesian frame same wise althought not inherently claims that. 

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